How Long for Long Pi?

Note: This is less of a blog post and more of a running commentary on a project I have conceived. I have a long way to go on it but I hope you enjoy the journey.

I’ve been thinking about computers I have seen at places like The National Museum of Computing in the UK or the Computer Museum of America here in Metro-Atlanta. One of the things that has always challenged me is how to benchmark computers against each other. For instance, we know the Cray 1A at the CMoA had 160 Megaflops of computing power, while a Raspberry Pi 4 has 13,500 Megaflops of computing power according to the University of Maine. What can you do with a megaflop of power however? How does that translate in the real world.

I’m considering a calculation matrix that would use one of two metrics. For older computers, how many places of Pi can they calculate in X amount of time. Say 100 seconds? For newer computers, how long does it take for the machine to calculate Pi to 16 Million places. Here are my early examples:

Pi to 10,000 Places on Raspberry Pi

ComputerProcessorRAMElapsed TimeHow Calculated
Raspberry Pi Model 3ARM SomethingSomething6 Min 34 Sec
394 Seconds
BC #1 (Raspbian)
Raspberry Pi Model 3ARM SomethingSomething2 Min 15 Sec
135 Seconds
BC #2
Raspberry Pi
Model 3
ARM Something0 Min 0.1 SecPi command

Pi to 16,000,000 Places

ComputerProcessorRAMPi to 16M Places TimeHow Calculated
Lenovo Yoga 920Intel Core i7-8550U CPU @ 1.8 GHz16 GB9 Min 55 Sec
595 Seconds
SuperPi for Windows Version 1.1
Lenovo Yoga 920Intel Core i7-8550U CPU @ 1.8 GHz16 GB0 Min 23 SecPi command
N4BFR Vision DesktopIntel Core i7-12700K CPU @ 3.6 GHz32 GB3 Min 15 Sec
195 Seconds
SuperPi for Windows Version 1.1
Raspberry Pi Model 3B+ARM 7 Rev 4 (V71)1 GB6 Min 03 Sec
363 Seconds
Pi command

Tools I am considering to use will be an issue because I want consistent performance across operating systems. Efficiency will be an issue because I will want something that computes at roughly the same speed for windows as for Unix.

  • SuperPi for Windows 1.1 was the first I came across and it seemed to be pretty straightforward that would run on many versions of Windows I came across.
  • Moving on to a calculator I could use in Unix, I found this John Cook Consulting Website that had a couple of calculations using the BC program. I found the results inconsistent on the Lenovo Yoga 920
BC Calculation 1: time bc -l <<< "scale=10000;4*a(1)"

BC Calculation 2: time bc -l <<< "scale=10000;16*a(1/5) - 4*a(1/239)"

I then found the Pi command on pi that might be more consistent with what I need.

$ time pi 10000

Pi Calculations on Lenovo Yoga 920
Windows time is reported by SuperPi. BC time is “Real” time reported by process.

Pi Calculated to X Places. X=Windows TimeBC `BC 2Pi Command
10K (Pi Compairison)1 Min 45 Sec0 Min 32 Sec
0 Min 35 Sec
0.09 Sec
20 K3 Min 22 Sec0.
50KIncomplete after 15 minutes
128K0 Min 01 SecIncomplete after 60 Minutes
512K0 Min 08 Sec
1 M0 Min 16 Sec
8 M3 Min 05 Sec
16 M9 Min 55 Sec0 Min 23 Sec

So using BC as a method of calculating does not seem to scale.

Coming back to this a few days later, I may have a partial solution. This will limit the use of this on older machines, but should be fairly consistent with newer ones. I plan to do the calculation with a script in Python 3. This should allow for roughly similar performance on the same machine to make results more comperable.

Python3 Downloads:

Python3 methods for calculating Pi:

I was able to get a rudimentary calculation in Windows using both of the formulas and include a function to time the process consistently. Now I need to compare in Linux and blow out the calculation to allow a material number of places for this to be an effective measure.

I have found a few more options thanks to StackOverflow and I’m testing them now on my 12th Gen Intel machine.

  • 100,000 digits of Pi using the “much faster” method proposed by Alex Harvey: 177.92 seconds for the first pass, 177.83 seconds for the second pass. I like the consistency
  • Guest007 proposed an implementation using the Decimal library. I attempted a 10,000 digit calculation and that took 24.6 seconds, 100,000 places didn’t complete after more than 10 minutes. Interestingly, a peek at the system processing said it was only running 8.1% of CPU time.

Tomorrow I’ll start a new chart comparing these two methods across multiple machines.

Raspberry Pi with Chrony

I’ve been a fan of having a Stratum 1 time server on my LAN ever since I first read GM8ARV’s page. One of my first ones can be seen in the background on my YouTube video about Leap Second tracking.

I found an article last week where Facebook has been doing analysis on time server software and has come to the recommendation that the Chrony software is better than NTP for performance. I’ve actually been using NTPSEC for a couple of years now, but I am open to change so I’m setting up a Chrony server.